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Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:39:00 - [1] Originally by: Lord Draco It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes. Sad ? I'm laughing my ass off here ! Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Lord Draco Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Lord Draco It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes. Sad ? I'm laughing my ass off here ! I just feel bad for the few that buy into the outrageous lies and may end up leaving Eve because of the outright lies they tell. Well, yeah, after reading the rest of his post and knowing his position in ASCN some sadness seems to manifest itself in a corner of my pyche. NOT ! Oh...my...god, what a totally deranged piece of posting Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:05:00 - [3] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/10/2006 14:07:05 Originally by: Marnix I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. EDIT: Added relevant quote coz you people post way to fast. Yes, well. I'd guess that victory will manifest itself once we are through, but you will of course not have to take my word for that. On the other hand, the chances of you being informed of our objectives are rather slim. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:15:00 - [4] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/10/2006 14:15:51 Originally by: Marnix You'll notice im not asking for them. Itd be interesting to know if they were achieved, but thats about as far as my involvement goes. As for victory being obvious, i think it will. Thing is, i dont think anyone doubts you will be victorious. But this isnt a win-lose game. You may be victorious but not kill ASCN. It will take ASCN weeks, maybe months of fleetbattles to make up for the kill:loss ratios you achieved in the first week. Thus, victory is already achieved. But as i stated above, i cannot judge wether you achieved your goals. Merely wether youre victorious. Neither do I actually . It does feel like we've achieved what we could have wanted so far. We're not in a rush to get to the end of things. I'll declare my next objective openly tho: I absolutely need to see more of those "Mccreedy files". It's frigging hilarious. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Plim Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. Eh... most of BoB's propaganda has been based on claiming that ASCN would use lag tactics. In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? Do people have 2 minute memories on this forum or what? I belaive that those are references to CYVOK's famous internal forum post on strategy versus BoB where he announced that rather then lose his outposts he'd have his blob crash the node repeatedly till we give up or lost all our dreads attemtping to kill his pos. You see, stating the intention (in quite serious words actually, I'm not sure if you've actually seen the post we're referring to ?) seriously, in command communications to your entire alliance, is rather different from using quotes from such communications to poke fun at your opponent. In all honesty, the post/blog made by John Mccreedy is seriously delusional. The seriousness with which he communicates his allegations internally, to his alliance, speaks for itself. It shows that the allegations and excuses he makes for our better performance around TPAR are actually meant seriously, not in jest. You can find direct quotes from his post/blog earlier in this thread. You tell me where we ever made such ridiculous allegations against ASCN ? Exactly, nowhere. we only quoted Cyvok in jest, alluding to his words about abusing lag as part of his defense strategy. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/10/2006 19:14:16 Originally by: Plim Yes Rod Blaine, I have read what Cyvok wrote and I think BoB are intentionally misinterpreting what he said. I don't think he was implying that he would crash the node on purpose, he was saying that he wouldn't allow CCP's hardware failings stop him from attempting to protect his space. This is really the crucial issue. If deploying a large fleet to defend an outpost crashes the node, then so be it. ASCN have done nothing wrong. Its not an exploit to defend a POS with the largest fleet possible, and if the servers were up to the 'challenge' there would be no node crash. BoB can hardly blame ASCN for Tranquilities instabilities. Or are BoB suggesting that by brining large fleets to defend a POS that ASCN are somehow exploiting? Doesn't add up, I'm afraid. We're not accusing, we are making fun of him. If you find someone accusing Cyvok of that as seriously and in as delusional terms as Mr Mccreedy has used in his recent 'state of the union', make sure to call me. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:30:00 - [7] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/10/2006 19:32:51 Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Oh god, did Xirt get cloned or what ? We dont sploit period Yes, that includes abuse of GM powers (as if any would abuse their powers in the first place) and lagsploitaging. We do neither, none, nada, capiche ? As for logging off to save pods, I can't say since I can't follow every BoB pilot around to fraps him 23/7. And anyway, how the **** would you know in the first place. IMP hasn't actually fought us since what ? 2004 ? Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:01:00 - [8] Yeah HAast, I really can't fathom how he and John make all that stuff up tbh. But the strangest of all is how, even if they themselves might beleive that nonsense, they expect blogs such as those to have much effect whent hey simply know we're gooing to be countering them on the eve-o forums. I mean, they must think their members are all exceedingly stupid or something. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:08:00 - [9] How about we ask Cyvop nicely to stop posting his crap where we are not supposed to see and react to it and do it right here in public right away ? Saves us the trouble of having to copy/paste and laugh about it on our private forums before coming here to make fun of his delusions. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:18:00 - [10] Well, I myself actually liked this part better Hast: Quote: would much rather prefer to play with mature, intelligent and productive members of society then morons that think winning with a headshot macro takes skill. 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. (Thankx Virt, Drakma, John and my other victims) I am over it. If you need to rant about it feel free to PM me your rant or grab me on team speak and let it all out in a private channel with me. ASCN is done complaining about BoBÆs ôcreative use of VERY poor game mechanicsö aka: ôThe Headshot Macroö. We are going to adapt to their ôtacticsö and kill them anyway. In response to Cyvok's invitation for his members to PM him with rants about our sploitage and h4xoring I would like to offer my respects and understanding for him as an eminent alliance leader. I fully understand that our h4xes and sploits are thus unfairly taxing his limited time as a productive member of society with an actual RL not involving living in his mom's basement playing quake with headshotmacro's, and as such would like to extend the same invitation to all ASCN members. Please pm me with your rants about our h4xsploits and other general misbehaviour, I implore you, help preserve your leader's sanity ! Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:45:00 - [11] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 11:47:15 Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. As I explained to Butter Dog in another thread (might even be this one but I cba looking), it comes down to a difference of opinion on what Eve is. And to what degree a communications or organisational tool used in direct and close combination with this game can ever constitute an "out of game mechanic". Also, if you doubt that ASCN uses spies on us as much as we use them on you you are not much better off then Cyvok. Suspicion turns into paranoia when you see ghosts behind every tree, or in every TS channel for that matter. And yes, we discuss a blog from the ASCN forums here. Don't you think we have the right to bring this into a domain where we can discuss it in presence of the ASCN members he is so blatantly lying to ? If he would jsut be telling you that he thinks we are braggards and that reality is not as we portray it to be here, chances are we would have let it alone. However, this is beyond decency. You can have qualms about invading someone's privacy, but then you should have as many if not more reservations about baseless accusations of foul play. Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 11:52:32 Quote: As I explained to Butter Dog in another thread (might even be this one but I cba looking), it comes down to a difference of opinion on what Eve is. And to what degree a communications or organisational tool used in direct and close combination with this game can ever constitute an "out of game mechanic". In other words Rod, you and BOB need the out of game advantage (TS spying) to fight your war. Your call mate. Your call. Just like you I have never been in a gang which was fed information directly from the enemies' TS. I'm sure you won't beleive that, but whatever. Spies have much greater use outside of comabt then in it you know. But just ask Cyvok about that, he knows as well as we do how the spying game goes. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:20:00 - [13] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 12:20:37 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/10/2006 12:07:23 Originally by: Rod Blaine Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. At least they are on a private board. Say what you like about ASCN, but they don't rake the muck on a public board like you guys do. Thats why pretty much everyone reading these threads has far more respect for ASCN's forum conduct than that of your alliance. Which, if true, can be attributed to what exactly ? Oh yes, to the fact that the drivel they come up with only makes it onto here when we quote it. That doesn't however mean that it doesn't exist, nor that it isn't unacceptable behaviour. A question, do you think it is wrong of us to take serious accusations against us and CCP such as have been voiced on their forums by their leaders, in all seriousness, and respond to them in this other private forum that's in part being read by the same audience as theirs is ? ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:29:00 - [14] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 12:31:07 Originally by: Butter Dog I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. I don't think an alliance of 4000+ members has just one opinon does it ? Cyvok may post on private forums used by one alliance, but there's still the 4000 members there, making it far from "keeping his opinion private". And it is HIS opinion, not that of ASCN. Propaganda is never private. That's the deal. You post delusional lies, we get to quote and walk all over them here. that's simply how we do things, and I see nothing at all wrong with it. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Cmd Groz I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw. ----------------------- So....I guess this is a Admission that BOB does use node crashes as a tactic in battle? Eerh, no ? Do I have to explain the english language to you ? "No it isn't" refers to the earlier posted "Its fairly harmless", and "CCP allowed it" would be referring to us taking apart ASCN internal lunacy on these forums instead of in private. There's no reference to node crashes or sploits in there. But then again, some of you guys seem to ahve remarkable abilities when it comes to drawing baseless conclusions, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:26:00 - [16] Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:35:00 - [17] He's about as neutral to us as my dog is to cats. thats why the wording was harsh (altho the message correct and true). When we get a question worth a good answer I'll give one. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:58:00 - [18] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 15:06:00 Ok, you're not exactly neutral either, but I'll play this time. Originally by: Kaiu ** Sirmolle gave a week to evacuate before the threat of taking GQ would be fulfilled.Was it more than 7days ago that this thread was made? He said the offer lasted a week, not that there was any threath to be carried out at the end of it. Maybe that was implied, but seeing how we are human too you can guess that if there were any plans to actually take it they've been delayed now. And yes, that would in that case be partly due to the agressive action around TPAR. Wether or not we mind is another question of course. We're fairly flexible and we've got all the time in the world, seeing how we're enjoying ourselves fine at this time. I personally doubt we intended to take G-Q actually, but not being involved in the ebil plannage I wouldn't know of course. Quote: ** If so, have you seen a mass migration/retreat from GQ? Hmm nope, I understand we're about to see a mass-immigration into it rather, which would probably fit our plans nicely I assume, seeing how Molle always seems to end up getting what he wants even if he asks for something totally different. Quote: Have you taken control of sovereignty from any of ASCNs systems yet? Nope, nor have we tried to. If we try you'll notice allright. We don't do half-baked invasions like ASCN did. Quote: If not, how goes the war effort currently, seems the sovereignty battles for systems are 1-0 in ASCNs favour currently, is this correct? Hehe, we haven't tried stopping ASCN from taking TCAG, nor are we going to try and deny it to them. It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. I don't think ASCN get the way things work in sovereignty wars really. It would be more logical to actually take the systems that are any use to have rather then adding one station-less dump to your 'empire'. I actually don't know if we had sovereignty over it before they did tbh, probably did since we've got a medium tower for moon mining in there somewhere. Now let me ask you a funny question I just came up with. [ Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ?] [ Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? ] That'll be all, ta ta. edit: some spellage stuff Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:16:00 - [19] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 15:16:56 Originally by: Kaiu I can't see how i would be considered anything but neutral tbh? Aarh damn, ...well, hardly matters since we do NBSI anyways. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:04:00 - [20] Originally by: TheLast0ne Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. Not a very interesting reply tbh, but hey, at least it's something I guess. We started this war. We are fighting in Period Basis ? I thought we were fighting in AZN today actually, at least that's where we shot up another of your carriers isn't it ? Not that a single carrier kill will matter in the long run. What will matter is skill at warfare, stamina and unity. And believe me when I tell you we've got those, in portions quite larger then ASCN does. But hey, don't beleive me, hang on abit to find out for yourself. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:07:00 - [21] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Does it look contested NOW? Haha. Let me put a small pos in some unoccupied system in feythabolis (if there are any) and let's discuss the status of feyth then shall we ? Don't be ridiculous. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:11:00 - [22] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 17:13:57 Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Get your rep to put that in the map thread then. As for Josh, he's neutral to us, that means we actually shoot him as a rule. If we don't then that's a personal decision taken because of his status as mapmaker. Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:37:00 - [23] I smell new sigs soon Old blog

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